The
Rise and Fall of The Montague Arms – By Kevin Mullan ©July 2022
The Montague Arms is
to rise again! I say ‘rise’, but the truth is somewhat more complicated. This
May (2022), a second planning application was submitted to Lewisham Council by
CMT Construction. The first – a proposal to completely demolish the existing
building and build flats, with a token small ground-floor premise to
accommodate the provision to maintain an A4-Class element (i.e. a licensed
establishment) – was withdrawn in 2021 after much opposition, including from
local councillors. Having taken the time to register local residents’
objections to the lack of a realistic public bar and live music space for the
community, the developers have come back with a plan that they hope is more
amicable.
Now, the proposal is to retain the core building and extend the property. Additional rooms will be constructed upstairs, lengthening the existing storeys. The flat-roof area, that once housed the Mont’s famous stage back in the glory days, will be incorporated into a new two-storey residential block. The rest of the ground floor will remain as a fulfilment of the A4 stipulation, but obviously that means a much-reduced pub area. So what about any capacity for live music events, I hear you ask? That’s where it gets interesting.
The Monty is not so much rising as falling. Under the new application, the cellar is to be dug out to create a subterranean gig space with appropriate headroom for audiences and performers alike. The space will extend under the whole of the existing property. It will host underground music – in a very literal sense! This works for the developers in a two-fold way: those who were concerned about the previous disregard for a viable pub/music venue are perhaps now more likely to be placated; new residents in the redeveloped ground floor and upstairs, plus those who live in close proximity to the pub, will be insulated from performance noise due to the underfloor location.
Curious to find out who and how many would attend and what the local sentiment was, I strolled up to the premises at the meeting time of 2pm on a roasting hot Sunday afternoon. I was fearful that the extreme weather would drastically affect turnout, but gradually more and more people joined along the Kender Street side until there were approximately 14 of us; a diverse group in terms of age, sex and race with a surprise guest, Martin, who older readers may remember from the days when Peter Hoyle was the pub’s owner (think stuffed zebras, a horse carriage and various nautical artefacts).
This seemed to me like an aggressive-defensive move by the developers. Not all former frequenters of the pub live along Queens Road, myself included, and it was by sheer luck that a friend who had received a flyer alerted MARS to the planned discussion. Attendance was no doubt affected both by the weather and the ignorance caused by the tearing down of publicly visible notices. Were the owners in fear of us? Well, we were soon to find out.
We moved back downstairs, onwards to the ground floor and into what used to be the bar area. In rather messy surroundings, it was hard to recognise it as the place in which I have both enjoyed and endured music of all types and styles over several pints. The bar was minus its copper sheeting panels; the spirit shelves had lost their mirrors; the raised seating area no longer had its benches; the antique ceiling fans that kept punters cool on stuffy summer nights were nowhere to be seen.
Once again, Eddie pointed out that much work needs to be done and illustrated where the new end wall to the pub would be by standing close to the main entrance doors and spreading out his arms. At one point he gazed upwards and exclaimed “There are holes in the roof!” One of the group attendees retorted “Yes, mate. Those holes are where the fan system was screwed in!” The cellar was not included as part of the show.
Following the tour, the residents filed back outside and reconvened to share their thoughts. I think it’s fair to say that opinion was divided. There were those who couldn’t contemplate anything other than a return of the ground-floor stage and even the fan system – the idealists – and those who accepted that the new application is probably the best we can hope for, all things considered – the realists.
Personally, like one of my fellow MARS members in attendance, I fall into the latter category. It’s not what we dreamed about, but it’s the only offer in town for a return to a pub and live music venue. My concern is that the basement space will, by necessity, have to include room for the pub’s beer cellar and toilets – what impact will that have on the entertainment space and maximum audience capacity? There are yet-to-be-resolved issues, relating to disabled access and Health & Safety inspection. Also, will the asking price for a lease be set at a realistic level?
It’s likely to be several years before we know all of the answers to the above questions – that’s if Lewisham Council Planning Committee approve the development, of course.
Hello there,
ReplyDeleteThank you for this blog post - I am currently in the process of researching for my undergraduate thesis at Central Saint Martins and I am looking into abandoned nightlife spaces. I am from South East London and therefore my particular interest lies in this area. I live in New Cross currently and I have chosen the Montague Arms as a place of study, would there be any chance that you would like to discuss the venue and your memories of it? Or perhaps you know others that might like to also? Please let me know and drop me an email if this would be viable: katealex138@gmail.com
Best wishes,
Kate